Wednesday, July 19, 2006

WWIII for Fun & Profit

I had been holding back on doing a post on the Middle-East conflict, and was waiting to join a discussion on another e-pisser's blog. Two weeks later, that hasn't really happened, so here we are.

First off, the conflict: Anyone who hasn't had their head buried in sand over the last few years could see this coming - It was inevitable. The "road map to peace" was a joke and horribly over-simplified. It just wasn't going to work.
I, for one, welcome the fighting. My only concern is that the gunfire will cease before anything is accomplished. If anyone needs to be fighting radical Islamic militants it's the Israelis (not the US), and this seems as good of time as any.

The big problems with this current action are two-fold:
1) The United States is already part of this war. When the administration opened up the second (Iraqi) front on the "war on terror", we automatically deposed Israel as the "big man" in the fight against Muslim extremists. We had allied ourselves with Israel before the first missile was launched. If we would have stuck to the Afghanistan war, we may have been able to stay to the periphery, but by opening up a second front in Iraq we have positioned ourselves squarely in the middle of this conflict. We are married to it.
2) Those Muslims are fucking crazy. No matter how many bombs you drop, or people you kill, there will be waves of combatants to rebuild and take to the front lines. Everyone should have learned this back in the days of colonialism. Their social structure is extremely controlled, and doesn't conform well (or at all) to outside influence. We recently learned that in Afghanistan, and we're learning that in Iraq (again). The area is unstable, and current allies will be future enemies (Remember when we supported the Taliban when they were fighting the Soviets, or remember when we supported Saddam Hussein when we were at odds with Iran?). It's a lost cause.
The first thing you'll learn in any Social Anthropology class is to never judge another culture by the mores and values of your own. To which I say: Fuck that rule, Anthropology! These people are racist, sexist, homophobic, religious nuts. Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke (or a shitload of bombs).

Well, now we're stuck. If I had it my way they'd round up all hostile forces and march them South past the Suez Canal, build a big fucking wall along that bitch, then head down and raze Mecca - just for the hell of it. That's not going to happen. I believe that the only way to prevent future conflicts is to make this one absolute hell. Choke the Jordan river with bodies thick enough to walk across. Dismantle governments and bomb the ruins. Turn Lake Tiberias red with blood. FUCK THINGS UP. Nobody remembers skirmishes, but everyone loves an atrocity . Give 'em one for the ages.

6 comments:

edP said...

I like how this post follows "I've Got Nothing"

Prairie Dawg said...

Refreshing.

edP said...

Let me begin by saying, I love when the DC Liar gets fired up. But I have a question regarding point number one. You said:

"1) The United States is already part of this war. When the administration opened up the second (Iraqi) front on the "war on terror", we automatically deposed Israel as the "big man" in the fight against Muslim extremists. We had allied ourselves with Israel before the first missile was launched. If we would have stuck to the Afghanistan war, we may have been able to stay to the periphery, but by opening up a second front in Iraq we have positioned ourselves squarely in the middle of this conflict. We are married to it."

Why are you convinced the war in Iraq has married us to the current conflict between Hezb & the Izrali army? The position is out there (I hear it every day on NPR) - that the insurgency in Iraq has emboldened(sp?) Hezbollah - but I'm not convinced. Isn't it possible that the ascention of an Iz PM who has never been a general and may have a genuine interest in pull-out politics (you know what I mean, if you don't just pretend it's something dirty) - and Hezbla is taking this oportunity to push the new Iz leadership and see 'Will the negotiate with us prisoner for prisoner' - or will the new leadership overreact precisely because it cannot afford to be considered weak (at home or abroad)?

I mean any political party with a military wing has an interest in conflict rather than resolution...

ok, my baked mostacholli is done - I'll be back for more of this shit. Loved the last two posts - all due respect, I couldn't disagree with them more.

Smootches
(what the fuck amI? Elise?)

DC Liar said...

Ed-

It's not the way that WE'VE structured our stance - It's the way THEY'VE structured their stance.
The entire radical Islamic world has framed the situation as Israel and the US -vs- the Muslim world.
They have masterfully painted the US as the strong-arm of the Zionists.
That's total crap, but you try explaining that to a 12 year old kid strapped down with explosives & toting an AK47.

edP said...

I agree with part of this...but I think linking the present hostilities with the Misadventures in Iraqisitting is as potentially misleading as linking Sadman Whosayin' with 91whatermacallit.

In fact, and I hate even thinking this...the method for delivering these gay rockets to Hezbollah...and where that leads...sort of makes a case for the war in Iraq (I may write about this once I get all the thoughts in my head...this will give you an opportunity to see how wrong I can be about serious things)

The one thing I am in full agreement with you on here is - THESE HALF MEASURES IN THE CONFLICTS SO FAR ARE TOTAL BULLSHIT. If we do throw our lot in with the Israelis in a meaningful way...your point is a good one - real Jerico destruction shit...not one rock left on top of another

Half-assed invasions do embolden the enemy who's heart and mind cannot be won by what it sees as the soft nihlism of US

It would be better (from a policy point of view, not a human one) to be as brutal as possible...real shock and awe

Michael K said...

So... Do we nuke 'em or not? If we just fucking lay waste to the whole damned place, would we be in a better or worse place? Japanese haven't piped up in about 60 years. They had suicide bombers. Let's give it a shot.

On the other hand, we'd be killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Maybe that would make us monsters?

You see, I don't believe in heaven and all that hocus pocus so killing people has a bit more gravity in that I don't think these folks are going to a better place. They are just gone. They spend their last few moments in agonizing pain and then it's lights out.

You wanna know what we should do? We should stay the fuck outta there and let them have their little party. If we want to draw a line it should be in Istanbul where things are more stable. Keep the madness from spreading and encourage Israelis to move back to Poland. Who wants some sausage?